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Jin Yong Character Level Ranking Chart
catatan: Tokoh dari semua novel wuxia / cersil dari Jin Yong (chin yung) kecuali 3 novel pendek (jadi 15 - 3 = 12 novel).This list is last updated on 29 Aug 2021
Legendary Level (武林神话)– Godly Legends of Wulin
Sweeper Monk (TL)
Dugu Qiubai (RO / XAJH) – Speculation. He is considerably better than Dong Fang Bu Bai.
catatan: keduanya anggap saja LV 99
Possible Candidates:
These are extremely speculative, distant background characters that do not appear directly in the Novels. They are added purely for fun and strictly speaking should not be considered in this chart.
- - Damo Founder
- - Creator of Kuihua Baodian
- - Murong Longcheng
- - Xiaoyao Zi, Founder of Xiaoyao Sect
Level 90 (神功盖世,天下无敌)– The pinnacle of martial arts and perfection!
LV 90: Xu Zhu (TL) – Held back by weak combat ability. Internal at LV100.
LV 90: Shi Po Tian (XKX)
LV 87: Wu Ya Zi (TL) – Only based on internal (disregarding disability)
LV 86: Tian Shan Tong Lao (TL) - She is stronger than Li Qiu Shui at full power.
LV 85: Li Qiu Shui (TL)
LV 85: Duan Yu (TL) – Assume functional Liu Mai Shen Jian. Held back by weak combat ability.
LV 85: Huang Shang, Creator of Jiuyin (LO) – Speculation.
LV 83: Dongfang Bu Bai (XA) – Demonic Speed (extremely good at 1vX combat)
LV 82: Di Yun (LCJ) – Assume 神照经 is on the same tier as 九阴/九阳 from its feats.
Level 80 (绝世高手)- Only the strongest characters in all of Jinyong Novels reaches here.
LV 80: Xiao Feng (TL) - Skillset/Internal at LV75. Fighting God (extreme combat ability)
LV 80: Murong Bo (TL)
LV 80: Xiao Yuan Shan (TL)
LV 80: Duan Yu (TL) – At Shaolin battle. Assume functional Liu Mai Shen Jian. Held back by weak combat ability.
LV 80: Yang Guo (RO) - Without Heavy Iron Sword. [Happy State: -1LV, Sorrow State: +1LV]
LV 80: Guo Jing (RO) - Post 16 Years. Speculation.
LV 80: Feng Qing Yang (XA) - Speculation. Stronger than Ren Wo Xing. Lower limit LV75, upper limit unknown.
LV 80: Lin Yuan Tu (XA) - Speculation. He can range from LV75 to LV85.
LV 80: Wang Chong Yang (LO) – It is logically impossible for him to be at this LV at the time of his death. He is placed here because it is always the Author Intention for him to be 1 tier above the 4 Greats at all point of time.
LV 77: Zhou Botong (RO) - Pre & Post 16 Years.
LV 77: Jinlun Fawang (RO) - Post 16 Years.
LV 77: Jiu Mo Zhi (TL)
LV 77: Zhang San Feng (YT) - Held back largely by his old age.
LV 77: Zhang Wu Ji (YT)
LV 76: Guo Jing (RO) - Pre 16 Years.
Level 75 (绝顶高手)- The "4 Greats" Level.
LV 75: East Heretic, Huang Yao Shi (RO) - Pre & Post 16 Years.
LV 75: South Emperor, Yideng (RO) - Pre & Post 16 Years.
LV 75: West Venom, Ouyang Feng (RO)
LV 75: North Beggar, Hong Qi Gong (RO)
LV 75: Yang Guo - Pre 16 years, using Heavy Iron Sword.
LV 75: Guo Xiang (YT) – Speculation of highest level reached.
LV 74: Zhang Wu Ji (YT) – After mastering Taiji Sword & Fist at Wudang.
LV 72: Qiu Qian Ren / Ci En (RO) - Both Pre & Post 16 Years.
LV 72: Fang Zheng (XA)
LV 72: Lord Long/Mu of Xia Ke Island (XKX)
LV 72: Zhou Bo Tong (LO) - After he was "enlightened" by Guo Jing.
LV 72: Ouyang Feng (LO) - At 2nd Mt Hua after he becomes crazy.
LV 72: Ding Dian (LCJ)
LV 72: Wang Chong Yang (LO) – Speculation. At the time of his death.
LV 72: Yellow Dressed Girl, Lady Yang (YT) - Speculation.
Level 70 (一代宗师)– The "Sub-Greats" or "LOCH Greats" Level
LV 70: East Heretic, Huang Yao Shi (LO)
LV 70: South Emperor, Yideng (LO)
LV 70: North Beggar, Hong Qi Gong (LO)
LV 70: Kurong (TL)
LV 70: Xiao Long Nu (RO) – After learning Left/Right Technique
LV 70: Jinlun Fawang (RO) - Pre 16 years. Internal at LV75.
LV 70: Ren Wo Xing (XA)
LV 70: Lin Chao Ying (LO) – Speculation. At first Mount Hua.
LV 69: Ling Hu Chong (XA) – Before Learning Yi Jin Jing. VS Sword-Using Opponents Only. LV60 VS Non Sword-Using Opponents. See FAQ.
LV 68: Zhang Wu Ji (YT) – End of battle against 6 righteous sects on Bright Peak.
LV 67: Qiu Qian Ren (LO)
LV 66: Chong Xu (XA)
LV 66: Duan Zheng Ming (TL)
Level 65 (罕逢敌手)– Upper tier Elites. Extremely powerful characters that rarely meet his match.
LV 65: Duan Yan Qing (TL)
LV 65: Reverend Huangmei (TL)
LV 65: Xuan Ci, Shaolin Abbot (TL)
LV 65: Zhang San / Li Si (XKX)
LV 65: Du E/Du Jie/Du Nan (YT) - Range From LV65 to LV62 (Strongest To Weakest)
LV 65: Guo Jing (LO) - At the end of LOCH.
LV 65: Yang Ding Tian (YT) - Speculation. At time of his death. He defeated Du E 10 years prior to story.
LV 65: The 4 LOCH Greats (LO) – Speculation of their LV at first Mt. Hua.
LV 65: Zhou Bo Tong (LO) - Before he was "enlightened" by Guo Jing on Peach Blossom Island.
LV 64: Zuo Leng Chan (XA) – Before Blinded
LV 62: Ding Chun Qiu (TL)
LV 62: Xiang Wen Tian (XA)
LV 62: Yue Bu Qun (XA) - After Learning Bixie
LV 62: Divine Condor, Shen Diao (RO)
Level 60 (一流高手)– Mid tier Elites. Considered top tier in General Wulin.
LV 60: Murong Fu (TL)
LV 60: You Tan Zhi (TL) – Internal at LV80. Held by back weak combat ability and techniques.
LV 60: Sword God Zhuo Bu Fan (TL)
LV 60: Cheng Kun (YT) – Before Blinded.
LV 60: Two Demons of Hejian, Bu Tai and Hao Mi (YT)
LV 60: Fang Sheng (XA)
LV 60: Zhang Wu Ji (YT) - Upon mastering 9YangShenGong (after Qiankun Bag). Internal at LV80.
LV 60: He Zu Dao (YT) – Estimation, dead before story.
LV 58: Guo Jing (LO) - After enlightened by Great Dipper during Begger's Meet.
LV 58: Xie Yan Ke (XKX)
Level 55 (二流高手)– Lower tier Elites. Considered top tier in General Wulin.
LV 55: Gongsun Chi (RO)
LV 55: Huang Rong (RO) - Full Health, Non Pregnant State.
LV 55: Xuan Ming Elders (YT) – Their Xuan Ming poison palms, if connected, is particularly devastating [+10LV] against opponents without strong Yang energy to dissipate its effect.
LV 55: Lin Ping Zhi (XAJH) - After learning Bixie but before blinded.
LV 55: Bai Zi Zai (XKX)
LV 55: Xue Dao Lao Zu (LCJ)
LV 55: Su Xing He (TL)
LV 54: Yang Xiao (YT)
LV 54: Fan Yao (YT)
Zhao Min’s Wudang Subordinates
catatan: maksudnya event penyerbuan ke sekte Wudang
LV 55: Kong Xiang (YT)
LV 55: Ah Da (YT)
LV 52: Ah Er (YT)
LV 52: Ah San (YT)
Level 50(三流高手)– Upper tier experts in Jinyong Main Novels.
LV 50: Mie Jue (YT) – Equipped with Heavenly Sword.
Mongol Mercenaries
LV 52: Nimo Xing (RO)
LV 50: Xiao Xiangzi (RO)
LV 46: Yi Kexi (RO)
LV 50: Qiu Qianchi (RO) - Only based on internal (disregarding disability)
LV 50: Bujie Monk (XA)
LV 50: Duan Zheng Chun (TL)
LV 50: Luo Hua Liu Shui 4 Swordsmen (LCJ)
Plum Manor, 4 Friends of JiangNan
LV 58: 1st Brother Huang Zhonggong (XA)
LV 55: 2nd Brother Hei Bai Zi (XA)
LV 42: 3rd Brother Tu Bi Weng (XA)
LV 40: 4th Brother Dan Qing Sheng (XA)
4 Guardians of Ming Sect
LV 50: White Eagle, Yin Tian Zheng (YT)
LV 50: Green Bat, Wei Yi Xiao (YT)
LV 50: Golden Lion, Xie Xun (YT)
LV 45: Purple Dragon, Zi Sha Long Wang / Jin Hua Popo (YT)
(YT) 4 Divine Monks of Shaolin
LV 56: Kong Jian (YT) - Strongest of 4 Divine Monks. Died to Xie Xun’s trickery.
LV 50: Kong Wen (YT) -Abbot of Shaolin
LV 48: Kong Zhi (YT) - Lost to White Eagle Guardian at Battle of Bright Peak.
LV 48: Kong Xing (YT), Practiced Dragon Claws Skill. Killed by Ah San.
LV 48: Ding Mian (XA)
LV 48: Ding Bu Si (XKX)
LV 48: Ding Bu San (XKX)
LV 48: Bei Hai Shi (XKX)
LV 48: Li Mo Chou (RO)
LV 46: Guo Jing (LO) - After learning from Zhou Botong at Peach Blossom Island.
Level 45 (融会贯通)– Lower tier experts in Jinyong Main Novels.
LV 45: Ying Gu (RO)
LV 45: Shi Qing (XKX)
LV 45: Min Rou (XKX)
LV 45: Bai Wan Jian (XKX)
LV 45: Quanzhen 7 Elders (RO) - Qiu Chu Ji (LV50), Ma Yu (LV48), Wang Chu Yi (LV48), Liu Chu Xuan (LV45), Hao Datong (LV38), Sun Bu Er (LV34)
Wudang 7 Swordmen
LV 50: Yu Lian Zhou (YT) - Before learning Taiji palms. He should be LV54 post Taiji.
LV 48: Song Yuan Qiao (YT)
LV 45: Zhang Song Xi (YT)
LV 42: Yin Liting (YT)
LV 38: Mo Shenggu (YT)
LV 38: Zhang Cuishan (YT) - At the point of his death.
Yu Daiyan is cripple and excluded.
LV 45: Mei Chaofeng (LO) – Blinded, at battle against QZ 7 Priests
LV 45: Feng Bu Ping (XA)
LV 44: Xiao Long Nu (RO) - Before Learning Left-Right Technique
LV 44: Yang Guo (RO) - Post Golden Wheel Monk Advice, before losing his arm
LV 44: Mo Da (XA)
LV 42: Yin Ye Wang (YT)
LV 42: Yue Bu Qun (XA) – Pre Bixie Swordplay
LV 42: Ouyang Ke (LO) - Before crippled.
LV 42: Feng Mo Feng (RO)
LV 42: Daerba (RO) - At Martial Art meet
Level 40 (鹤立鸡群)– Seasoned pugilists and leaders of small sects
4 Vicious Evil (TL)
LV 42: Ye Er Niang (TL)
LV 40: Yue Lao San (TL)
LV 36: Yun Zhong He (TL)
Murong Fu’s 4 Servants
LV 44: #1, Deng Bai Chuan (TL)
LV 42: #2, Gong Zhi Qian (TL)
LV 35: #3, Bao Bu Tong (TL)
LV 32: #4, Feng Bo E (TL)
Dali Servants
LV 40: Dali 4 Servants (TL)
LV 48: Zhu Zi Liu (RO)
LV 42: Diancang Yuyin (RO)
LV 40: Wu Santong (RO)
LV 40: Huo Du (RO) – At Marital Art Meet
LV 40: Yelu Qi (RO) - Post 16 years
LV 40: Zhou Zhi Ruo (YT) - After learning Jiu Yin Bai Gu Zhua
LV 40: Ren Ying Ying (XA)
LV 40: 10 Elders of Sun Moon Cult (XA)
LV 40: Liu Zheng Feng, Tianmen Dao Ren (XA)
LV 40: Qu Yang (XA)
LV 40: Taogu 6 Immortals (XA)
LV 40: Quanzhen 7 Elders (LO) - Qiu Chu Ji (LV42), Ma Yu (LV41), Wang Chu Yi (LV40), Liu Chu Xuan (LV38), Tan Chuduan (LV30), Hao Datong (LV30), Sun Bu Er (LV26)
LV 40: Ying Gu (LO)
LV 40: Jiu Nan (LDJ)
LV 40: Hong An Tong (LDJ)
LV 40: Chen Jia Luo (FHWZ)
LV 40: Miao Ren Feng (XSFH)
LV 40: Hu Fei (XSFH)
LV 40: Guo Jing (LO) - Right after learning full set of 18 Dragon Palms
LV 38: Yang Guo (RO) - At Martial Arts Meet
LV 38: Yuan Chengzhi (BXJ)
LV 36: Kunlun Leaders He Tai Chong & Wife (YT)
LV 36: Huashan 2 Tall/Short Elders (YT)
LV 36: Yu Cang Hai (XA)
LV 36: Mu Gao Feng (XA)
LV 36: Hengshan Leaders Ding Yi & Ding Xian (XA)
Level 35 (略有小成)– Seasoned Pugilist. Medicore in Song Dynasty, Top Tier in Qing Dynasty
LV 35: Ao Bai (LDJ)
LV 35: Chen Jin Nan (LDJ)
LV 35: Feng Xi Fan (LDJ)
LV 35: Miao Ren Feng (XSFH) – When he fought Hu Yi Dao
LV 35: Hu Yi Dao (XSFH)
LV 35: Tian Bo Guang (XA)
LV 35: Zhong Wan Chou (TL)
LV 35: Ning Zhong Ze (XA)
LV 35: 5 San Ren (YT)
LV 34: Guo Jing (LO) - After Hong Qi Gong taught him 15 Dragon Palms.
LV 34: Yelu Qi (RO) – Pre 16 Years
LV 32: Huang Rong (LO) - After first meeting with Hong Qi Gong (learnt Xiaoyao Fists)
LV 32: Yang Guo (RO) - When he left Mt.Zhongnan after mastering Jade Maiden Sutra (Before Mt. Hua)
LV 32: Kongdong 5 Elders (YT)
LV 32: Lu You Jiao (RO)
LV 32: Lao De Nuo (XA)
Wanyan HongLie’s Jin Lackeys
LV 35: Peng Lian Hu (LO)
LV 32: Lingzhi Shangren (LO)
LV 32: Liang Ziweng (LO)
LV 30: Sha Tong Tian (LO)
LV 30: Wuliang
Level 30 (武功平平)- Weak in Song Dynasty, Elite in Qing Dynasty
LV 30: Yue Ling Shan (XA) - After learning secret arts in Mt Hua Cave.
LV 30: Chen Jia Luo (TBTS)
LV 28: Lan Fenghuang (XA) – Not including her poison abilities
LV 26: Wuliang Sect Leaders (TL)
LV 26: Song Qing Shu (YT)
LV 26: Yang Kang (LO)
Level 25 (初出茅庐)- Weak in Song Dynasty, Strong in Qing Dynasty. Most of Jinyong Heroes Starts Their Wulin Journey Here.
LV 25: Guo Fu, Wu Brothers (RO) - Post 16 years.
LV 25: Zhao ZhiJing, Zhen Zhibing (RO)
LV 25: Sha Gu (LO)
LV 25: Ke Zhen E (LO)
LV 25: Hai Dafu (LDJ)
LV 25: Ah Zi (TL)
LV 25: Most of Duan Zheng Chun's wives (TL) - Qin Hong Mian, Dao Bai Feng
LV 25: Ling Hu Chong (XA) - At start of novel
LV 25: Yin Su Su (YT)
LV 25: Zhao Min (YT)
LV 22: Yang Guo (RO) - When Li Mo Chou invade the Tomb
LV 22: Guo Jing, Huang Rong (LO) - When they first met each other
LV 22: Hu Fei (FHWZ) – End of FHWZ
Level 20 (不足挂齿)- Trash Tier. Very Weak in Song Dynasty, Mediocre in Qing Dynasty
LV 20: Ma Guang Zuo (RO)
LV 20: Granny Sun (RO)
LV 20: Cheng Ying (RO) - Pre 16 Years
LV 20: Most Hall Leaders of Qing Mu Tang (LDJ)
LV 20: Su Quan (LDJ)
LV 20: 4 Swords Maidens of Xiaoyao Sect - Mei Lan Zu Ju (TL)
LV 20: Zhou Zhi Ruo (YT) – Pre Jiuyin Claws
LV 18: Guo Fu, Wu Brothers (RO) - Pre 16 years.
LV 18: Yang Buhui (YT)
LV 16: Lu Wu Shuang (RO) - Pre 16 Years
LV 16: Yin Li, Zhu’er (YT)
LV 12-16: 7 Freaks of JiangNan (LO) - Except Ke Zhen E
Level 15 (不堪一击)- Can take on a handful of trained soldiers/underlings.
LV 15: Shuang Er (LDJ)
LV 15: Lin Zhen Nan (XA)
LV 15: Mu Nian Ci (LO)
LV 15: Ah Zhu (TL)
LV 15: Mu Wan Qing (TL)
LV 15: Yue Ling Shan (XA) - Before learning secret arts in Mt Hua Cave.
Level 10 (杂鱼)- Have the most basic of martial arts. Can take on a few soldiers.
LV 10: Zhong Ling (TL)
LV 8: Huanghe 4 Ghosts (LO)
LV 8: Yang Tie Xin (LO), Guo Xiao Tian (LO)
LV 8: Lin Ping Zhi (XA) - Pre Bixie.
LV 8: Xiao Zhao (YT)
LV 8: Most of Wei Xiao Bao's wives (LDJ) - Ah Ke, Zeng Rou, Fang Yi, Mu Jian Ping
Level 5 (小喽啰)- Disciples, Followers, Underlings, Soldiers
Majority of unimportant sect disciples, followers, underlings will fall in here.
LV 3: Xu Zhu (TL), Yi Lin (XA) - At start of novel
LV 2: Wei Xiao Bao (LDJ)
LV 2: Armed Guard / Soldier
LV 1: Possible characters include Duan Yu (TL) at start of novel
Special Category - Formations & Teamwork
Xiao Long Nu (LV45) + Yang Guo (LV42) = LV75 [玉女素心剑法 Jade Maiden Swordplay]
7 LOCH Quanzhen Disciples (LV26-42) = LV70 [天罡北斗阵 Big Dipper Formation]
3 Du Monks (LV62 – LV65) = LV80 [金刚伏魔圈: Telepathic and Buddhism Power]
7 Wudang Heroes (LV38-LV46) = LV90 [真武七截阵] - Speculation
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LEVEL GUIDELINES
General guidelines on how to interpret the LVs, for 2 characters A and B:
1 Lv Difference - The difference is minuscule and A is only perceived to be very slightly stronger. In a fight to death, it’s hard to say who will win and possibly both may perish in battle.
2, 3 LV Difference – There are concrete or acknowledged evidence that A is stronger than B, but the difference is still extremely narrow. A would probably win, but only after an extremely long and arduous battle (possibly >1000+ exchange). It would take a lot out of A (exhausting all his energy/stamina) to win this battle.
Example: ZBT vs Greats
5 LV Difference - The difference is wide enough now that A would most definitely win, provided A fight seriously and not let down his guard. B can give a very good challenge.
Example: LOCH Great vs LOCH Guo Jing
10 LV Difference - At this point, A should be able to defeat B with relatively ease (likely within 100 exchange). There is almost no chance of B winning. However, A still need to exhaust considerable attention/energy/stamina to deal with B.
15 LV Difference - Similar to a 10LV difference, but now A would be able to defeat B with even less effort and likely much quicker (within 50 exchange). There is no conceivable chance of B ever winning.
20 LV Difference, and Beyond - Depending on the martial arts used, it's possible for A to defeat B in one hit, or within several blows. B has no chance of winning. Beyond this point there should be no noticeable difference in the fight - it would just mean that A would need to utilize less percent of his power to win.
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BASIS OF RANKING & DEALING WITH INCONSISTENCIES
This chart is based solely on Jinyong original novel only (no adaptations). It takes into consideration the entire "fighting capability” of a character to win against another. Any deviation from below would be stated specifically for that character.
Taken Into Account:
- Physical Attributes (Being blind, crippled, etc...)
- Age (A character base progression of deeper internal as he age could be offset by corresponding fall in stamina after around 70)
- Author narrative (What is described according to the author)
- Actual Performance (What actually happens in the story such as feats and battle against other opponents)
- Skillset, internal, technique, lightness skill and speed (including martial arts cultivation/knowledge)
- Battle experience/combat ability
- Combat Intelligence (knows how to deploy different martial technique to deal with different opponents)
- Weapon (If a character primarily fights using one)
There are several instance where the author narrative and a character actual performance differs greatly - most notaby in Qiu Qian Ren and Jinlun Fawang case. For example:
1. Based on author narrative - We could rank Qiu Qian Ren 1 LV below the 4 Greats.
2. Based on actual performance - We could rank Qiu Qian Ren 5 to 8 LV below the 4 Greats.
Worst still, there are inconsistencies within each evidence type (e.g. XM elder "1-Hit" KO Yang Xiao during their appearance, but was later proved to be not much better than the left/right envoy). This chart tries its best to incorporate all the above to derive a fair value.
When actual performance and author narrative contradict each other, more weight-age (70%) is given to actual performance. (e.g. GWM and QQR). When actual performance differs in different battles, we try to consider all battles equally. More weight-age is given to 1v1 battle. (e.g. XF failure to beat MRF+YTZ does not drop his LV).
Not Taken Into Account:
- Potential (We only rank base on strongest point in the novel, not what could be in the future. Unless stated as speculation)
- Character Traits (e.g. Benevolence, unwillingness to hurt another)
- Non combat intelligence (e.g. charisma, seduction, able to talk his way out of things, ability to escape)
It's sometimes difficult to exclude character traits. Hence, we rank the character assuming it's a "fight to the death". The level of the character is when he is under the state where he "has to defeat/kill his opponent".
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GENERAL FAQ
- Character levels listed are at their MOST POWERFUL POINT IN THE NOVEL (Usually the End), unless otherwise stated. Weapons are not counted except when stated. The exception is when the character fights primarily with weapon (e.g XAJH novel)
- This Chart is targeted at 1 VS 1. Its accuracy is greatly diminished for handicap matches (1v2, 1v3) as too many factors would come into play (swordplay, skills synergy, formation, etc). As a guideline, one should have no problem 1v2 persons 15LV lower, but not always. (Notable exception: Xiao Feng failure to defeat Murong Fu + You Tan Zhi)
- In actual combat, there are always more factors involved: environmental (dark cave more advantageous for blind), distraction, underestimation of opponent, inability to focus, being poison, low confidence will all affect a character fighting capability. Therefore, it doesn’t mean a lower LV character will always lose.
- Level units are not "equal" throughout - The difference from LV70 to LV75 is GREATER than the difference from LV30 to LV35. In RPG terms, it simply means you need more experience to progress to the next at higher levels. This is to stimulate the "plateau effect" of martial arts, and to prevent the upper tier characters from getting into ridiculous Levels. In other words, the higher LV you go, the more difficult it becomes to "level up".
- For background: The list started out from the ROCH Greats Level (which defaults to 75). The comparisons started and expanded gradually from there. The main tiers characters can be classify as: Legendary -> Great -> Elite -> Expert -> Seasoned -> Novice.
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About 1 Hit Kill
Even if 2 characters has a insanely wide difference, it doesn't means that one will definitely KO the other in ONE hit. There are too many variables here at play, in particular different fighting styles (some are more aggressive/power based, some are more technique based, some uses speed/agility, etc)
One hit KO could make sense for chars using "high power" arts like H7G XL18Z. Can a Quanzhen Elder (40 LV diff) take on a full-power XL18Z from him? No.
Now let's imagine a QZ Elder against HYS, who choose to use some 'fancier' palms techniques (Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang). Or picture the QZ Elder against HQG, this time using Dog Beating Skill instead. The Great strikes a couple of times, and it's not inconceivable that a QZ elder could dodge/block with sword, and hold on for a few stances. Dog Beating Skill isn't the same 'raw power' technique like XL18Z, and likely can't explode your target in 1 hit.
Against someone like DFBB who focuses on speed, a 20 LV difference might not mean that the other guy is going to get kill in 1 blow, since again DFBB doesn't use raw high power blasts. Z3F can one-hit a Xuanming Elder if they clash palms, but if he uses Taiji Sword VS Ah Da, the fight will probably last much longer than 1 stance.
Finally, there are cases where a character just have extraordinary defensive techniques. For example, Duan Yu could be say at LV10 after learning Lingbo Weibu. However, LV40 Yue Lao San can't hit him at all. And probably even LV80 XF can't hit him.
Are we going to argue that their difference is less than 20LVs because of this? Obviously no. In this case, the better way to read it would be: DY have zero chance of defeating XF at that point in the novel.
The skills YingGu practiced have some "defensive properties" too, so it doesn't mean that her difference with Fawang is less than 20.
Power Utilization
Another point we should consider is if the difference is huge, a character usually doesn't give his all. E.g. HYS may only use 10% of internal when he's fighting against 7 Freaks. When a fight starts, characters usually doesn't go 100% right away. They power up slowly and just utilize whatever is sufficient to defeat his opponent.
Hence, there will definitely be many instances in novels where the difference is insanely huge but somehow the Great doesn't kill the weaker character in 1 blow, or take much longer than usual. (e.g. ZWJ vs ZZR)
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COMMONLY DISPUTED CHARACTERS AND JUSTIFICATION
This section list the commonly disputed characters, and the most important reason/argument for placing them at that rank. To nerf/buff any of these characters, you should directly attack these points.
Dong Fang Bu Bai [LV85]
- From his ability to toy with RWX + LHC +XWT, he should be rank ~15 LVs above RWX.
- Already 2nd/3rd strongest in Sun Moon Sect (i.e. already top tier fighter in Wulin) even prior to learning Kui Hua Bao Dian
- Characters with mere months in the Kui Hua Bao Dian became extremely strong. He practiced it for 20+ years.
Yang Guo [LV80]
- Final battle, he was winning against GWM even in his happy state.
Golden Wheel Monk, Post 16 Years [LV77]
- He proved himself to be capable of defeating Yideng.
Zhang San Feng [LV77]
- By his own estimation at age 100, he did not believe he quite reached the LV of Yang Guo and Guo Jing when he met them 80 years ago.
- His martial arts cultivation might be higher, but his fighting capability could be limit by his age.
Zhang Wu Ji [LV77]
- His internal is comparable to Zhang San Feng, Guo Jing & Yang Guo.
- Possess Great LV external skillset
- He frequently perform below this LV due to his “good guy” character.
Fang Zheng [LV 72]
- Decades of cultivation in Yi Jin Jing, 1 of the best internal art in JY Universe. It states specifically that this copy of Yi Jin Jing has been safely kept with Shaolin for hundreds of years, and never imparted to outsiders. There is no indication this is a weaker (or far weaker) version than the Yi Jin Jing (which propelled You Tan Zhi to Elite LV) in DGSD.
- Aside from Dong Fang Bu Bai/Feng Qing Yang, he is number 1 in the Wulin and can be considered as Great LV.
Ren Wo Xing [LV70]
- There is no indication that the LV of martial arts (including internal) in SPW is weaker than the Condor Trilogy. These feats including writing on wood (by Fang Zheng), erasing footprints on concrete (by Xiang Wen Tian). From text evidence, it is not unreasonable for him to be at LOCH Great LV.
Linghu Chong [LV69 against sword, LV60 against others]
- Linghu Chong is only well-versed in the Sword Breaking Stance and is relatively untrained in the other 8. Feng Qing Yang state that he would need another 20 years to perfect the "Qi Breaking Stance" in order to fight with the true greats of the martial arts world.
- Linghu Chong was knocked unconscious by the sheer force of Ren Wo Xing's roar, and would lose to anyone with high internal. He himself taught that he would lose badly to Fang Zheng as he didn’t know Qi breaking stance nor Palm breaking stance.
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5 Main Novels
XA – Xiao Ao Jiang Hu
TL – Tian Long Ba Bu
LO – She Diao Ying Xiong Zhuan
RO – Shen Diao Xia Lu
YT – Yi Tian Tu Long Ji
Others
XKX - Xia Ke Xing
LDJ – Lu Ding Ji
XSFH – Xue Shan Fei Hu
Tambahan dari saya
BXJ - Bie Xue Jian
FHWZ - Fei Hu Wai Zhuan
TBTS - The Book and the Sword (Shu Jian En Chou Lu)
LCJ - Liang Cheng Jue